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Морална замка интервенционизма

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1 понедељак, 16 мај 2011 16:29
Ник
Хе, хе, овај дечко их разбија натенане, тачку по тачку...
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2 понедељак, 16 мај 2011 17:27
Одбрана и последњи дани
Гледајући целокупни амерички естаблишмент овакви као овај су најгори. Такви не посустају у намери да нас убеде у моралност САД и Запада, чиме оправдавају империјалну политику која се води широм планете. САД морају да буду присутне свуда и да одређују правила игре зато што су неизмерно морални или моралнији од других. Управо то овај човек прича.До насиља у Либији је дошло након ангажовања инструктора Алијансе, који су насиље изазвали.САД су прво потпалили ватру,па су потом дошли да је гасе. Са бензином.Пошто он узима здраво за готово да су САД моралније од других и ја узимам здраво за још готовије да сам моралнији од њега што ми даје за право да управљам његовом породицом и,наравно, породичним богатством.Тако је некако размишљала и бивша комунистичка власт.
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3 уторак, 17 мај 2011 01:38
Mile
Ovo je vrlo dobar i pošten tekst. Sa sve ovde gotovo potpuno nepoznatim detaljem o zlodelima koja se vrše na istoku zemlje i Bengaziju prema "Gadafijevcima". Strašno. Koje licemerje i koji dvostruki standardi, a oni hoće da protiv Gadafija pokrenu optužnicu pred Haškim tribunalom.
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4 уторак, 17 мај 2011 03:13
Светислав Костић
@ Одбрана и последњи дани je potpuno ispravno ocijenio autora teksta! Utoliko što je naš kolega, "odbrana (...)" uočio da autor američke intervencije principijalno uopšte ne dovodi u pitanje. Razlika između Obaminog režima (pojam "administracija" obuhvata samo jedan ograničeni krug osoba koji svojoj kriminalnoj eneriji daju pun odušak) ili njegovih prethodnika ne razlikuju se niučemu. "Administratori" se mjenjaju ali režim i njegovi principi i utabane kriminalne smjernice ne mjenjaju se. Auto je jedan od miliona nosilaca tog neonacističkog sistema. Razlika između Hitlerovog "Trećeg rajha" i vašingtonske Amerike samo je u nijansama. Ali ideja vodilja je identična.

Одбрана и посl. дани nije se dao zbuniti od američkog autora. Koji bi da je na mjestu bilo kojeg američkog predsjednika odlučivao potpuno kao i njegovi prethodnici odnosno nasljednici. Sistemu mora da se nanese odlučuju udar. A on može da dođe sam izvana. Vašington cini sve da se to i dogodi. Pitanje samo kada?
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5 уторак, 17 мај 2011 08:42
Gordana Sandalj
Nama je odavno jasno sta se dogadja,a to cu da ilustrujem sledecim odlomcima,neprevedeno da bi se ceo tekst mogao naci na netu


The failure of the workers in France to join the students and call for a general strike led to a general concern on the French Left with the reasons for this. It was to theories of ideology that people turned to explain the situation in which apparently the workers did not do what would seem to support their interests.
Subjectivity has been an important concept for academic research, and for intervening in social and political life, since the 1960s.
During this time – and we are here moving through the 1970s – there was an incredible burgeoning of radical intellectual work in Britain, mostly seen through new journals, such as Screen, Radical Philosophy, Radical Science Journal, m/f, Feminist Review, Ideology and Consciousness,
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6 уторак, 17 мај 2011 08:43
Gordana Sandalj
, Papers in Contemporary Cultural Studies, to name but a few. Most, in the beginning, were self-published; something that would be impossible and unthinkable now – at least in paper.
Subjectivity will be collectively edited by Lisa Blackman, John Cromby, Derek Hook, Dimitris Papadopoulous and Valerie Walkerdine. The group brings together expertise in various relevant fields including psychology, sociology, social theory, psychoanalysis, postcolonial theory, feminism and gender studies, and media and cultural studies.
It is in this moment that we can see the burgeoning of work that was to become fundamental to an interest in subjectivity and its central importance for reformulating radical politics.
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7 уторак, 17 мај 2011 08:44
Gordana Sandalj
context it is worth spending some time outlining Nikolas Rose's analysis of the function and significance of the psychological sciences in neo-liberal regimes of governmentality, and his rejection of the individualism at the heart of such disciplines.
Nikolas Rose's impressive body of work developed Foucault's claims that the psychological sciences were sciences of population management, what Rose (1985) termed the "psy complex".
Such that the human being, here, is not an entity with a history, but the target of a multiplicity of types of work, more like a latitude or a longitude at which different vectors of different speeds intersect.
One of the many debates that this journal wishes to foster is how subjectivity can effectuate and promote social and political change today by nurturing interest in forces that escape the neo-liberal matrix of power not simply by negating or opposing it but by putting new alternative
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8 уторак, 17 мај 2011 08:44
Gordana Sandalj
forms of sociability in motion. What it comes to is how subjectivities construct new materialities (Haraway, 1997; Schraube, 1998; Barad, 2007), how subjectivities force capitalist aggregates of power to reconstruct themselves (Moulier Boutang, 1998; Santos, 2001; Hardt and Negri, 2004), how subjectivities materialize in new cultural relations and relations of intimacy (Preciado, 2003; Mahmood, 2005; Clough and Halley, 2007), how, finally, subjectivities contribute to the emergence of new political engagements and new social movements (Rancière, 1998; Chesters and Welsh, 2006; Papadopoulos et al., 2008
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9 уторак, 17 мај 2011 09:59
slobodan 50
podizanjem optužnice protiv gadafija bi bila strašno važna stvar za srbiju.najači dokaz naše ispravnosti.
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10 уторак, 17 мај 2011 11:32
miki
Odlican clanak. Prefinjeno diskreditovanje kljucnog intervencionistickog argumenta.

p.s. Prava je steta sto ne mogu svi da razumeju /sine ira et studio/ nivo kritike americkog intervencionizma koji je prisutan u ovom clanku

p.s. Izvrstan prevod, bravo!
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11 уторак, 17 мај 2011 13:49
случајни пролазник
Јако добра анализа, упућивањем на најважнију тачку, која је како Пилар показује и "најтања", на коју се позивају у одбрану "хуманитарних интервенција", доводе се у питање сами темељи на које се позивају интервенционисти, били они "либерални" или конзервативни. И не мање важно, доводи се у питање смисленост и тог заглушујег јавног дискурса који на Западу прати сваку овакву интервенцију и који је препун разумевања за његове политичке протагонисте...
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12 уторак, 17 мај 2011 15:48
Слободан
Последњи пасус је одлучујући за оцену намера аутора. По овом пасусу судећи, текст вишезначно критикује понашање (најблажи израз, који сам нашао)САД у Либији. Прво, аутор сматра да су САД лоше процениле ситуацију и развој догађаја у Либији, нарочито у погледу штете на хуманитарном плану (" ... укупну суму људских патњи у случају сваког од могућих праваца деловања Запада."). Друго, интервенција је "интелектуално, политички и емотивно" лоше оцењена, јер, не само да није решила ниједан проблем у Либији, него је иницирала још теже. И, треће, аутор јасно указује на еуфемизам хуманитарне интервенције "... ради заустављања злочина који су били данима далеко од тога да се десе.". Због ових речи сврсатавам овог аутора у (ретко моралне из САД) критичаре интервенција у име хуманитарних огрешења појединих режима по избору светског полицајца. Треба се сетити критика Клинтона у Сенату у току бомбардовања Србије - потрошено је превише томахавака и одвојено је одмах 6 милијарди долара за обнову залиха
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13 уторак, 17 мај 2011 16:42
Одбрана и последњи дани
Прочитах поново текст не би ли како препознао и уочио у њему садржан ниво критике америчког интервенционизма, али узалуд, остадох заробљеник свог краткорочног ума и предходног коментара. Дакле, оно што сам требао да прочитам између редова нисам прочитао, него сам прочитао овако:

- Без обзира која страна да победи у Либији, земља ће постати жртва осионог, мржњом мотивисаног насиља. Подржати мање од два зла и даље значи бити на страни зла

Зло су Гадафи и његове присталице што значи либијски народ, а зло су и побуњеници што кореспондира са Бушовом измишљотином о Осовини зла. Амери су само подржаваоци тог зла што им аутор замера, јер је испод нивоа да они тако морални зло подржавају.Тако сам ја схватио ниво.

У даљој анализи аутор са моралног аспекта говори о бесмислености интервенционизма. На основу прилично сумњиве премисе, да је наводно за неке из Обамине администрације хуманитарни мотив био искрен и веома важан,аутор доноси закључке...наставак
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14 уторак, 17 мај 2011 16:43
Одбрана и последњи дани
-Појединачно, неконтролисано, мржњом мотивисано насиље ће букнути на све стране, посебно с обзиром на дезорганизацију и недисциплину побуњеничког покрета чији самопроглашени лидери се и даље боре да уведу ред и контролу у делу земље који је режим већ изгубио. Да би био конзистентан са било којим моралним принципом који каже да треба урадити све што се може да би се спречило опште крвопролиће, ЗАПАД БИ МОРАО ДА СЕ МНОГО ДУБЉЕ УКЉУЧИ У НАМЕТАЊЕ РЕДА у пост-Гадафијевој Либији.

Врло подмукло и цинично заговарање интервенционизма, опет са позиција моралног ауторитета и моралне оправданости због спречавања зла.

Тако сам ја прочитао.ТО ШТО СЕ АУТОР БАВИ ШНАЈДЕРАЈОМ И НАСТОЈИ ЦАРУ САШИТИ НОВО ОДЕЛО сматрам непоштеним.Такође похвале за превод, јер критика текста и аутора не значи да се није требао наћи на страницама НСПМ. Напротив. Текст је добродошао како би схватили са ким имамо посла. Поздрав свима, а посебно истомишљенику г. Светиславу Костићу чије коментаре радо читам.
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15 уторак, 17 мај 2011 16:48
Guru
"Humanitarna" intervencija? I Pilar baca prasinu u oci. Doktori bez granica (Kushner) i trgovina organima. To je pravo ime za njihovu humanitarnu intervenciju. Za one koji imaju para da ih kupe, za njih je to "humanitarno".
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16 уторак, 17 мај 2011 17:00
ел нињо
ко о чему, Америка о поштењу
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17 уторак, 17 мај 2011 23:22
Bob
Odbrana ipd. je sve lepo rekao o ovom tekstu.
nema se šta više dodati o američkom neonacizmu.
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18 среда, 18 мај 2011 19:21
Gordana Sandalj
Zelim da korisnicima Interneta ukazem na dve veoma dobre karakteristike Google-a:
1.dovoljno je da ukucate 3-4 reci u Google i on ce vam dati ceo tekst.Ono sto sam navela predstavlja mozda dvadesetinu od celog,vrlo interesantnog teksta
2.pomocu Google-a mozete dobiti prevod sa bilo kog jezika,pa se radi toga nisam trudila da prevedem.

Kako je ovaj tekst zaista kvalitetan dodacu jos neke njegove odlomke jer je prava steta ne videti ih.Naravno,ovoga puta bice na nasem jeziku.
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19 среда, 18 мај 2011 21:22
Sta je nemoralno od pocetka, ne moze u zamku opet pasti...
...'The National Interest' ... svet u kome je vas nacionalni interes, presudjujuci faktor.. a nacionalni interes, interes kompanija koje finansiraju vase politicare...
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20 среда, 18 мај 2011 21:34
@Odbrana i poslednji dani
"Гледајући целокупни амерички естаблишмент овакви као овај су најгори. Такви не посустају у намери да нас убеде у моралност САД и Запада, чиме оправдавају империјалну политику која се води широм планете".

Izvrsno! Pola posla u suzbijanju zla je indentifikacija istog. Velika moc jezi u sposobnosti da se nesto 'opipa' ili ucini opipljivim. Mngoi su podlegli lukavstvu, bas zato sto nisu mogli da konkretno ukazu na zlo (vide ga, ali ne mogu prstom pokazati gde, sta)..

Ovo su oni OGUGLALI debelokozci, koji u svojoj silnoj 'analizi i izpitivanju' ne upitaju ni jedno pitanje. Ovo su oni 'akademski' tekstovi, dizajnirani da citaocu daju utisak uctivosti, bez potrebe za pravom substancom i istinskim analitickim sadrzajem. Ovako se u Americi 'kriticki' razmislja jos od hladnog rata. Isti duh, 'sve pitaj, a nista ne upitaj', ko fol podlozi kritickoj analizi, a u stvari propagiraj. Ovo zlo je ukorenjeno tako duboko.. kao i kolonijalni mentalitet...
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21 среда, 18 мај 2011 22:05
Gordana Sandalj
Red je da nesto covek "novo" nauci:
In the Congressional Record, published by the United States Government Printing Office, Proceedings of the House, 1957, page 8559 you can read the following:
"Israel Cohen, a leading Communist in England, in his A Racial Program For the Twentieth Century, wrote [in 1912]:
'We must realize that our Party's most powerful weapon is racial tension. By propounding into consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have have been oppressed by the whites, we can mould them to the program of the Communist Party. In America, we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites , we will instill into the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise to prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver Am
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22 среда, 18 мај 2011 22:07
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America into our hands'."
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23 четвртак, 19 мај 2011 07:15
Gordana Sandalj
Dodajem nesto jako dobro,istina veoma dugacko ali korisno kako za Amere tako i za pojedine nase politicare.

AS A MAN THINKETH
BY JAMES ALLEN
Author of "From Passion to Peace"
Mind is the Master power that moulds and makes,
And Man is Mind, and evermore he takes
The tool of Thought, and, shaping what he wills,
Brings forth a thousand joys, a thousand ills:
He thinks in secret, and it comes to pass:
Environment is but his looking-glass.
Authorized Edition
New York
A man does not come to the almshouse or the jail by the tyranny of
fate or circumstance, but by the pathway of grovelling thoughts and
base desires. Nor does a pure-minded man fall suddenly into crime by
stress of any mere external force, the criminal thought had long
been secretly fostered in the heart, and the hour of opportunity
revealed its gathered power.
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24 четвртак, 19 мај 2011 07:20
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Circumstance does not make the man, it
reveals him to himself no such conditions can exist as descending into vice and its attendant sufferings apart from vicious inclinations, or ascending into virtue and its pure happiness without the continued cultivation of virtuous aspirations, and man,therefore, as the lord and master of thought, is the maker of himself the shaper and author of environment. Even at birth the soulcomes to its own and through every step of its earthly pilgrimage it attracts those combinations of conditions which reveal itself, which are the reflections of its own purity and, impurity, its strength and weakness."
"Law, not confusion, is the dominating principle in the universe,justice, not injustice, is the soul and substance of life, and righteousness, not corruption, is the moulding and moving force in the spiritual government of the world. This
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25 четвртак, 19 мај 2011 07:23
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This being so, man has but to right himself to find that the universe is right, and during the process of putting himself right he will find that as he alters his thoughts towards things and other people, things and other people will alter towards him."
"Thoughts of fear, doubt, and indecision crystallize into weak,unmanly, and irresolute habits, which solidify into circumstances of
failure, indigence, and slavish dependence. Lazy thoughts crystallize into habits of uncleanliness and dishonesty, which solidify into
circumstances of foulness and beggary. Hateful and condemnatory thoughts crystallize into habits of accusation and violence, which solidify into circumstances of injury and persecution. Selfish
thoughts of all kinds crystallize into habits of self-seeking, which solidify into circumstances more or less distressing.
On the other hand, beautiful thoughts of all kinds crystallize into
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26 четвртак, 19 мај 2011 07:27
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habits of grace and kindliness, which solidify into genial and sunny circumstances. Pure thoughts crystallize into habits of temperance and self-control, which solidify into circumstances of repose and peace. Thoughts of courage, self-reliance, and decision crystallize into manly habits, which solidify into circumstances of success,plenty, and freedom.
Energetic thoughts crystallize into habits of cleanliness and industry, which solidify into circumstances of pleasantness. Gentle and forgiving thoughts crystallize into habits of gentleness, whichsolidify into protective and preservative circumstances. Loving and
unselfish thoughts crystallize into habits of self-forgetfulness for others, which solidify into circumstances of sure and abiding
prosperity and true richesThought allied fearlessly to purpose becomes creative force: he whoknows this is ready to become something higher
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27 четвртак, 19 мај 2011 07:30
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and stronger than a mere bundle of wavering thoughts and fluctuating sensations, he who
does this has become the conscious and intelligent wielder of his mental powers.
A strong man cannot help a weaker unless that weaker is willing to be helped, and even then the weak man must become strong of himself,
he must, by his own efforts, develop the strength which he admiresin another. None but himself can alter his condition.Before a man can achieve anything, even in worldly things, he must
lift his thoughts above slavish animal indulgence. He may not, inorder to succeed, give up all animality and selfishness, by any means, but a portion of it must, at least, be sacrificed. A man whose first thought is bestial indulgence could neither thinkclearly nor plan methodically, he could not find and develop his latent resources, and would fail in any undertaking.
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28 четвртак, 19 мај 2011 07:32
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Not having commenced to manfully control his thoughts, he is not in a position to control affairs and to adopt serious responsibilities. He is not fit to act independently and stand alone. But he is limited only by the thoughts, which he chooses.
There can be no progress, no achievement without sacrifice, and a man's worldly success will be in the measure that he sacrifices his confused animal thoughts, and fixes his mind on the development of his plans, and the strengthening of his resolution and self-reliance.
And the higher he lifts his thoughts, the more manly, upright, and righteous he becomes, the greater will be his success, the more
blessed and enduring will be his achievements.
The universe does not favour the greedy, the dishonest, the vicious,
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29 четвртак, 19 мај 2011 07:38
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although on the mere surface it may sometimes appear to do so. It helps the honest, the magnanimous, the virtuous. All the great
Teachers of the ages have declared this in varying forms, and to prove and know it a man has but to persist in making himself more
and more virtuous by lifting up his thoughts.
Intellectual achievements are the result of thought consecrated to the search for knowledge, or for the beautiful and true in life and nature. Such achievements may be sometimes connected with vanity and ambition, but they are not the outcome of those characteristics, they are the natural outgrowth of long and arduous effort, and of pure and unselfish thoughts."
"THE dreamers are the saviours of the world. As the visible world is sustained by the invisible, so men, through all their trials and sins and sordid vocations, are nourished by the beautiful visions of their solitary dreamers. Humanity cannot forget its dreamers, it cannot let their ideals fade and die, it lives in them,
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30 четвртак, 19 мај 2011 07:42
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, it knowsthem as they realities which it shall one day see and know.
Composer, sculptor, painter, poet, prophet, sage, these are the makers of the after-world, the architects of heaven. The world is
beautiful because they have lived, without them, labouring humanity would perish."
"You will become as small as your controlling desire, as great as your dominant aspiration, in the beautiful words of Stanton Kirkham Davis,
"You may be keeping accounts, and presently you shall walk out of the
door that for so long has seemed to you the barrier of your ideals, and shall find yourself before an audience--the pen still behind
your ear, the ink stains on your fingers and then and there shall pour out the torrent of your inspiration. You may be driving sheep,
and you shall wander to the city-bucolic and open-mouthed; shall wander under the intrepid guidance of the spirit into the studio of
the master, and after a time he shall say, 'I have nothing more to teach you.' And now you have
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31 четвртак, 19 мај 2011 07:45
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become the master, who did so recently
dream of great things while driving sheep. You shall lay down the saw and the plane to take upon yourself the regeneration of the world."

CALMNESS of mind is one of the beautiful jewels of wisdom. It is the result of long and patient effort in self-control. Its presence is an indication of ripened experience, and of a more than ordinary knowledge of the laws and operations of thought.
A man becomes calm in the measure that he understands himself as a thought evolved being, for such knowledge necessitates the
understanding of others as the result of thought, and as he develops a right understanding, and sees more and more clearly the internal
relations of things by the action of cause and effect he ceases to fuss and fume and worry and grieve, and remains poised, steadfast,serene.
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32 четвртак, 19 мај 2011 07:47
Gordana Sandalj
The calm man, having learned how to govern himself, knows how to
adapt himself to others, and they, in turn, reverence his spiritual
strength, and feel that they can learn of him and rely upon him. The
more tranquil a man becomes, the greater is his success, his
influence, his power for good. Even the ordinary trader will find his business prosperity increase as he develops a greater selfcontrol
and equanimity, for people will always prefer to deal with a man whose demeanour is strongly equable.
The strong, calm man is always loved and revered. He is like a shadegiving tree in a thirsty land, or a sheltering rock in a storm. "Who does not love a tranquil heart, a sweet-tempered, balanced life? It does not matter whether it rains or shines, or what changes come to those possessing these blessings, for they are always sweet, serene,and calm. That exquisite poise of character, which we call serenityis the last lesson of culture, the fruitage of the soul.
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33 четвртак, 19 мај 2011 07:50
Gordana Sandalj
It is
precious as wisdom, more to be desired than gold--yea, than even fine
gold. How insignificant mere money seeking looks in comparison with a serene life--a life that dwells in the ocean of Truth, beneath the
waves, beyond the reach of tempests, in the Eternal Calm!
"How many people we know who sour their lives, who ruin all that is sweet and beautiful by explosive tempers, who destroy their poise of
character, and make bad blood! It is a question whether the great majority of people do not ruin their lives and mar their happiness by lack of self-control. How few people we meet in life who are well balanced, who have that exquisite poise which is characteristic of the finished character!
Yes, humanity surges with uncontrolled passion, is tumultuous with ungoverned grief, is blown about by anxiety and doubt only the wise man, only he whose thoughts are controlled and purified, makes the winds and the storms of the soul obey him.
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34 четвртак, 19 мај 2011 07:51
Gordana Sandalj
Tempest-tossed souls, wherever ye may be, under whatsoever conditions ye may live, know this in the ocean of life the isles of blessedness
are smiling, and the sunny shore of your ideal awaits your coming.
Keep your hand firmly upon the helm of thought. In the bark of your soul reclines the commanding Master. He does but sleep, wake Him.
Self-control is strength. Right Thought is mastery.
Calmness is power. Say unto your heart, "Peace, be still!"
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